NSW Classic & Twinshock Championship

[sharvie]

The 2012 NSW Classic & Twinshock Championship looks like a great idea.

I will take the risk & suggest some clases with the intent of attracting as many riders as possible

Pre 65 - Champion

Pre 72 - Champion

Pre 80 - Champion

Pre 86 - Twinshock open solo Champion

No grades, just these 4 classes

Constructive suggestions & comments welcome

Steve

[sherpa]

Looks like a good place to start, as it gives the older less competitive bikes their own class- similar setup to what is done in Spain where they attract big numbers for twinshock trials

[Stu]

I can recommend a heap of classes, but those 4 are a good start, but 1 thing has come to mind regarding the Pre 80 class. What is the weight difference between a 1974 TY250 and a 1979 Fantic? It may be a small amount, but will this sort of question arise? ive ridden my TY against much more modern bikes and had a medium of success so it may just come down to rider ability.

[brownie]

G'day Sharvie,
Sounds like good idea but how would you set sections say in the Pre 86 class, dull for A graders like yourself or dangerous for Clubman etc there is too much difference in skill levels in that class. Everyone is going to want to have a ride and have some fun.
Ross

[logan]

SOUNDS LIKE THIS IS SHAPING UP TO BE THE TRIAL OF THE YEAR FOR NSW, WELL IN MY OPINION ANYWAY!

I HAVE TWO TRIALS WORTH OF EXPERIENCE ON A TWINSHOCK TO GO BY, HOWEVER THE TWIN SHOCK MASTERS THIS YEAR WAS ONE OF THE MOST ENJOYABLE TRIALS I HAVE EVER RIDDEN!!!

THE WORD ON THE STREET IS THAT TONY AND I WILL BE ROAD TRIPPEN FOR THIS AND I CANT WAIT!!!!

HEY TOBY DO YOU KNOW OF ANY DECENT REAR SHOCKS FOR A HONDA THAT MAY SUIT A BIG FAT BASTARD AND A DENMAN A GRADE TRIAL?????

THANKS GOFFY

[sybella]

Road trip is on big fella

[Twinshock200]

Hi Y'all
Having different cut off years for Classic and Twinshock bikes is an excellent initiative to promote more interest in the older bikes and lets face it, Pre 65 Classic hasn't grown in the 31 years that I was involved in Aussie trials with about 6 appearing at a big event in Qld and probably the same in Vic, non existent in NSW ( I could be wrong but someone will correct me) and 10 or so at the national championships.
Pre 65 was started in the 80's to eliminate the Spanish bikes mainly but it also effectively eliminated many makes of Pommie bikes, and the Japs later on.
As some would know I am over in the UK for a while and competingin local BMCA events, which caters for British bikes, Pre 1970, and I'm riding a trick Cub that I bought here. This club will be running a Pre 70 trial every weekend until the end of March and I have seen as many as 86 riders in one event but the average would be around 40 riders.
After seeing this amount of enthusiasm I firmly believe there needs to be more flexibility in the classes if Aus is to grow and I have suggested this some weeks ago to some of the Classic/Twinshock guys in Qld but little response as yet.
I still think there is a strong case to keep Pre 65 but then add Pre 70 and Pre 80 as Steve suggested.
Clubs don't need "permission" to start these classes as long as they identify them in their Supp Regs and it needs a club like Denman or the Qld clubs to start the ball rolling.
Keep Pre 65 for the purists but with a Pre 70 class think of the Pommie bikes that can be dragged out of sheds and dusted off, Sprites, Greeves, James, CCM, FB's, B40's, C15's, more Cubs and a host of smaller volume makes and even some early Spanish ( which will please Alan P). Somebody with better knowledge than me could no doubt give us a list of Pre 80's but would bring out a plethora of Spanish and Japanese bikes and Twinshock could come in at 1/1/1980
With these extra cut off years we could see some growth in our Classic and Twinshock following and lets be honest, there has been no enthusiasm or leadership from MA on this subject which has led to no growth in the last 30 years so it would be great to see these initiatives taken at the NSW championships and others.
Cheers
Roger Galpin ( email; [email protected] )

[David Lahey]

The 2012 NSW Classic & Twinshock Championship looks like a great idea.

Arrghh - now I have to make a choice. I can usually only get to one Denman MCC event per year and I thought I knew which one it was going to be in 2012. Now there is this fancy new championship thing in 2012???? arrghh decisions decisions

[sharvie]

Guys,

Sections will be set as per normal Denman Twinshock Standards. With the normal grades A through to Clubman.

It will have 7-10 sections for the day with out reversing them. I will be setting the sections from the Thursday before. If you want a say in the sections then come along and put your 2 cents in when they are being set.

Toby Coleman

No doubt you will set sections that will be sufficient to challenge all. Do you know, will there be a Champion in each grade (A - Clubman) and one for Classic?

Putting your hand up to set the sections is greatly appreciated . Getting out on a Thursday to help will be difficult, what about a working bee the Saturday before (if needed)?

Reason for the thread was to discuss what format might attract the most entrants, and the current format may be the one.

Wanted to see what thoughts others had, and a few seem to think more year model categories would help. The discussion is worthwhile for possible changes next year?

Steve

[Geoff Lewis]

Hi All, I thimk that breaking the field up into year category can only have a positive outcome. We used to run a similar Twinshock and Classic format at OMCC many years ago and it was very successfull for a time. Once we allowed moderns to compete on these days to bolster numbers the Twinshock days went into serious decline , that they may have anyway is hard to determine and no inference should be read from it. We also had a natural form of handicap where by as there were three lines of difficulty, each person rode the line appropriate to their usual grading and competed on raw score within their class. So there may have been three people competing in pre 75 each riding a different line appropriate to their grade but competing for the same prize which meant people who normally didn't get much of a go had a good chance of an award. This was a popular format, well with me anyway. We broke the classes into pre65, pre 70, pre 75 pre 80 and pre 86. It is hoped that we will be running a Twinshock and Classic only trial here in Victoria in 2012 and should be run under similar rules to the NSW Classic and Twinshock Championships. I agree with Toby re. YSS. Superb!
Regards Geoff.