2017 Rule Changes

[JAKROO]

There's also the opportunity to allow competitors to self scrutineer in the Australian Championship courtesy of rule 20.6.0.2. Helmet mounted cameras which are add ons ie post the original manufacturing are no longer allowed - rule 20.8.2

Also, while not directly related to changes in 2017, I've found this re refuelling of motorcycles in all offroad competitions. It appears that we need to use a suitable absorption mat.....
page 12 - http://www.ma.org.au/fileadmin/user_upl ... t_Plan.pdf

[PA]

Enviromats were discussed awhile ago, surprised you don't remember it was only back in 2007. viewtopic.php?t=2528

We have been using them in SA for sometime now. We normally have a refueling area with a couple of fire extinguishers close by and an Enviormat there to be used.

[holster]

Interesting to read the comments about electric bikes in that post from 2007 ...

[JAKROO]

....We have been using them in SA for sometime now. We normally have a refueling area with a couple of fire extinguishers close by and an Enviormat there to be used.

Yes, I was berated quite heavily by an official of the event when I attended one of the SA trials events in Oct 2015 for not knowing what one was, not having one under the bike nor how to use one. Being advised one has made a mistake is one thing, being told in no uncertain manner that I was a this and a that and need to do such and such was not required. My 9 year old son didn't think too much of the dude either, and did ask why he reacted in such a rude manner. If I hadn't traveled 1400+ kms to get there I'd have probably packed it in and gone home early.

Anyway that's not the point.....I was prompted to look harder this time around (I had tried at the time using my phone and some data usage, it's not easy...the MA site mentions that it has an enviro policy in many many places but finding the actual code behind the policy is hard work), and I found it so I now know about them.

[Twinshock200]

Question answered !!!!!

[peterw]

Gents,
Unless I'm misinterpreting something, Moms 2017 section 20.1 indicates "categories for "Senior Australian Trial Championship".
In other words, these are the categories that must be run.
over the page table 20.4 has other categories that can also be run or divided into.
It doesn't read "non championship or support classes".
This has been in the rule book for years and nobody seams to have picked this up.
So I believe the Australian titles can run "Masters, Vets 50-59, Vets 60+, air cooled twin shock and even A, B, C or Clubman" if they want.

As for the sequential order, there are NO penalties if you didn't do them in what ever order you perceived it to be.
It's like the lanyard rule when it was first introduced. Only later it was changed to receiving a 5 point penalty per section.

[Kurt]

On the loss of classes, all it requires is the organising club to use rule 20.4 as follows:

Open solo can be divided into Expert, A, B, C and Clubman.
Hence Open Solo Expert would be Open solo as it is currently known.
Open Solo A = Masters
Open solo B = Veterans 60+
Open Solo C = Veterans 50-59
Open solo Clubman = Air cooled mono

Veterans 40+ is as it appears in the 2017 rules.

There is no rule that says your name plate colour must correspond to the section arrows, hence each grade will have name plate colours as per 20.10.2.1 and follow the arrows that are usually used for each class at the nationals.

Crazy rule changes averted and everyone can turn up on the bikes they always have.

[picktas]

I agree Peter - The Club running the Nationals just needs to include the classes in the sup regs.
If Open Solo B was included in the classes offered at the nationals......
- Ex Masters Riders could enter in Open Solo B, leaving the Veterans Class to the Veterans.
- As there is no age limit in Open classes, riders 21 to 40 riding at A or B grade level, who have previously been excluded from riding a modern bike at the nationals, could attend and ride in Open Solo B.
This may encourage them to keep improving to Expert level.
This would increase the riders at a nationals and provide the organising club with more funds to run the event.

These would be positive changes for our sport.

Regards Ian.

[Twinshock200]

I don't agree with the last three posts advising that the Aus Titles can be split down into all the support classes that don't get a ride at the moment.
The way MA has it laid out on their website is a bit confusing,,, make sure you are looking at the 2017 MoMs first of all.
Go to Section 20 Trial
20 A Australian Championships
20.1 Categories for Senior Australian Trials Championships ......... see page 246

The above is where Toby Coleman picked out and listed all the changes at the start of this thread
The confusion starts below;;

20 B Competition Classes.
20.4 Senior Competition Classes & grades ..........see page 247.

I take 20.4 to mean any of these other support classes/grades can be implemented in any other senior event other than the Aus Titles

I don't think there is any chance that 20.4 will be allowed into 20.1, all the Trials Commission wanted to do was to eliminate the poorly supported grades at the Aus Titles, reduce costs and reduce the workload.
By allowing all the support levels into the Aus titles it would increase costs, workload and confusion, which its already done, but it would also make a lot of riders really happy.

[peterw]

That's the problem when you said "I take table 20.4 to mean .. .. and there is NO reference to "support classes or non competition".
It's written in plain English, "Senior competition Classes and Grades". No interpretation required.
Also table 10.1 reads "solo", NOT "open solo". Just like "sidecars" NOT "sidecars A & B" etc.