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Re: Basket Cases

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Bully fanatic wrote:I missed this one. I guessed M85 as soon as I saw the frame because I have one sitting outside my front door with no engine or tank and seat in or on it. Not mine though.

So did you have a model 85 :Bultaco: at one stage in our youth Bullylover? Something in my memory is telling me you had a 250 Alpina of some sort before the model 213 :Bultaco: and I think Greg said you had owned one
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sherpa wrote:Hi David, with regards to the Piuma I went from a 199A Sherpa to a 349 White Cota and then the Piuma. I felt more at home on the Italjet I guess because of it's Bultaco origins. I rode a couple of the early green italjets which I really didn't like as they sort of felt heavy and unresponsive. The white bike was a completely different animal, feeling a lot lighter, more nimble and with better power. Comparing it to a Bultaco back then it had it's advantages, six speed box, primary kickstart and better brakes. Maybe the Butaco felt a little more stable and planted and maybe a little stronger bottom end power, overall probably not a lot to pick between the two and more about how each bike would have been set up.
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Thanks Greg. Great information
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My first real bike was a M213 David. I bought it in early 1979 when it was a year old. As usual I made many modifications on that bike. The original owner had extended the swingarm so I shortened that back to about standard length. Used to ride it to work during the week and then take all the lights and speedo off it and change the gearing and tryes and ride in the Upper Brookfield creeks all weekend then on Sunday night put all the road stuff back on and ride to work on a Monday morning. I really liked the bulb horn on that Alpina though!!!!! :Bultaco: :Bultaco: :Bultaco:
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Bully fanatic it's amazing how similar our approach was. I also had a "dual-purpose" :Bultaco: Alpina that I did the similar transformations on between riding to work/Uni and riding Trials. I didn't swap tyres though, because the only trials tyres I could afford were Bridgestone "Trials" tyres that were fine on the road. I remember my 325cc model 99 :Bultaco: Alpina being capable of scary-fast riding on dirt roads with the road gearing on it. One day out near "Honda" Hill out behind Ferny Grove I had the great pleasure of cruising up that hill in great style on that :Bultaco: like it wasn't even a hill. Honda Hill was so-named either because :Honda: s were the only bike that could get up, or because :Honda: s were the only bike that couldn't get up, depending on whether you liked :Honda: s or not. My riding and high-school buddy who showed me where Honda Hill was on his :suzuki RL250 was an accomplished Trials rider and also had no problems on the hill. Fond memories.
I do remember having lots of trouble riding Novice grade trials sections on that model 99 :Bultaco: Alpina though the reason for that had little to do with the bike, actually because I was a total Novice Trials rider.
The timing of our :Bultaco: Alpina escapades were not quite aligned though, because I had mine in 1975/76. It would have been two or three years old in 1975 when I bought it for $450 and while it ran, was fairly run down. By the time I sold it, it was a good thing and looked quite nice.
The next :Bultaco: Alpina that I was aware of was bought new in 1978 by my friend Darcy Redman. It was his model 212 :Bultaco: Alpina. Darcy was a senior TAFE teacher at the newly-opened Mt Gravatt TAFE College. He came from somewhere up near the Bunya Mountains and had been involved in the running of the early Bell State School fund-raising trail rides when a popular bike for that area was the :Honda: CT110 because it was light and low geared. His model 212 :Bultaco: would have been like a Superbike to ride after a :Honda: CT110. I learned a life lesson from Darcy Redman about :Bultaco: s vs Japanese bikes but didn't know it was a life lesson until about 15 years later with the advent of Twinshock Trials and P65 Trials. The lesson was about why he bought a new :Bultaco: Alpina when I had bought a new :yamaha IT175.
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Re: Basket Cases

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Never ridden to work, but used to ride my Alpinas from Inala to Whites Hill / Mt Petrie and Morningside - Rego ???
Seems dumb now when just 2kms from home was the best riding going. Things you do to ride with other Spanish owners.

Actually just tossed up between a new CT125 Hunter Cub or tidy up a Alpina to throw on the c'van. Alpina won, but can't get that CT125 off my mind. How many bikes is too many?
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A work around from the 1980s

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Many moons ago someone had a :montesa Cota 348 that had a problem with the original fuel tap. Maybe it was the famous Monotesticle fuel tap that :montesa s came with for a while.
Whatever happened, they made this set-up to replace the original fuel tap. It was on a 348 I bought about 25 years ago. Today I needed something to block off the fuel tap hole in another Spanish bike tank while I de-greased the insides and it worked a treat.
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Alpina tank fun

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I am cleaning this :Bultaco: Alpina tank up today getting it ready to line it with epoxy resin.
It's got a few repairs underneath. Most repairs have been done with the usual mat of glass filaments and polyester resin but one involved the use of a screw. How anyone managed to put a hole in a tank inside the tunnel has me beat but there you go. New mysteries every day.
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The steering stops on many old :Bultaco: have a plastic cap that is missing when you get a bike. I've been making them from a stick of nylon that I scored from somewhere back in the 1970s. Well this time, this Alpina need two stop tips and I only had enough of that original nylon rod left to make one of them.
The range of things you can buy easily nowadays in small quantities is incredible.
Some 13mm round nylon rod in natural and black arrived during the week and now both steering stops are ready to go.
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Alpina tank fun

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This is what I'm going to line the :Bultaco: Alpina tank with
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Alpina tank

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Interestingly this tank that came on a :Bultaco: model 85 basket case has 87 as a part number.
I think model 87 is the 175cc version of this era of :Bultaco: Alpinas. The 85 is 250cc and the 99 is 325cc.
I'm not surprised that it isn't the original tank, but am surprised that they would have different part numbers for the fuel tanks on models 85, 87 and 99 when they are all the same tank structurally and are decorated the same?
Time to have a look underneath some other model 85/87/99 tanks
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