My long time friend the pransing horse

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Re: My long time friend the pransing horse

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Cleaning up the mudguard was tricky the paint is not like modern paint. Can’t touch it with chemicals or it could break down.

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Light cut and polish is all then protective coatings.

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Think a lot of brown rust

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Before

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Re: My long time friend the pransing horse

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I’m tipping when on its feet it’s going to fall to the left

Look how close the tappet and exhaust ports are from the frame.

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Right side

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Left side

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Under the cover is the clutch and under the cap is a centrifugal oil cleaner.

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Under this side is the charging system, chain and sprockets, kick starter mechanism, clutch leaver actuator,

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Look at where the frame attaches to the cradle.

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The motor is ment to be off the frame centre line.

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If I put a leval across the top of the frame when on its feet. I’d say it’s going to fall to the left. Yes the flywheel and coils are heavier but it’s closer to the centre line. The exhaust high pipes are yet to go on the left side and there is a lot to it. Plus it’s on the outer edge. Gravity is going to pull on that, I thinks it’s got a decent grip.

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If you are seeing the pictures I guess you have read the words. Thank you. I like to think I’m posting for noble reasons but really I’m doing it for myself.
So here’s a dislexixs touch.

Old head light

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New

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The bike was throughly washed and what you see pretty well sums its condition up.
Cosmetic damage in good order.

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The horn is nicely sprung not connected to the head light at all amazing.

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Re: My long time friend the pransing horse

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Cleaned up nice

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Re using the bearings.

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Shock had corrosion but the seals were good and don’t leek after 60 years! If they start to leek I’ll replace the seals so just changed the oil.

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Fork Boots have no damage and supple amazing.

I know lanolin as a protectant but I want something else. This is the first bike io get ACF-50 ed.

The top boot and right bottom half are covered in lanolin. Bottom left half ACF50.
AC-50 has some strange properties like self leveling and when done it goes sticky and glossy You wipe the glos off by absorbing it into a paper towel, looks good with a matte finish. Wonder off and next time it’s glossy again. 2 or 3 times later it’s this good enough.

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Top of the forks were pitted and rusty but chrome good.

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Steering dampener?

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Do I need it?

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Old

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New

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This plate is called a “Helmet Keep” anyone know how it works?

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Re: My long time friend the pransing horse

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Nice work.
It is amazing how the older stuff cleans up.
I did read 'dont use acf50 on chains. The chemical may affect your 'O' rings'
Guess you will just have to see how the boots go.
Sent David Silver an email asking about the Helmet Keep. He's the global Honda Guru.
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Thank you whitehillbilly for doing that I can’t seem to be able to put a connection together where a D buckle lockes on to the Keep.

The cleaning well that requires a bike that’s not gone to far and a lot of intimate time consuming attention to detail.

The boots are a side test what I want from ACF-50 is something that will go into the pores of the raw exposed metal (aluminium) of the motor. After cleaning the motor metal is very exposed and will start to corrode if not sealed. I hoping ACF-50 will fit the bill. It should be removable if required, thin enough to penetrate deep into the pores and seal out oxygen/moisture and leave the metal with a natural look.
Results so far are good in the shed apart from the creeping self levelling wet look that needs several clean ups to get the wet gloss off it.
How it reacts with heat and time through use I don’t know yet but am encouraged so far.

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Before

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Cleaned

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Front brake hub stay

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Front brake hub stay attached to left forks

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Once again it’s the paint that can’t be touched. Light cut and polish only.

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Best I can do

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Re: My long time friend the pransing horse

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Coming together Nicely.
Had a reply from David Silver.
No real answer.
David Silver Spares Ltd | ph: 01728 833020 | fax: 01728 832197
The helmet lock is to attach the crash helmet strap to the motorcycle when you leave it. Not sure if there is a correct or incorrect way to use the helmet holder ?
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I would imagine a small padlock was used to attach the older style D's to the bracket, or the D passed through the slot and a padlock to attach.
My 77 CJ250T has a hook under the seat. Helmet D passes over the hook and is locked in place when the seat is closed. The ignition key unlocks the seat and steering lock.

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Re: My long time friend the pransing horse

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Thanks whitehillbilly

I have an old helmet with D rings and thought there may be a gap where the two ends meet but no they but up to each other.
The slot is too short to fit the helmet strap. Looks like a small lock may be it as the seat is bolted down so that’s not an option. Flip seats may be a later evolution I know in the 70s flip seats and keyed helmet locks were common on jap bikes.

Still it doesn’t seem right to bring your own lock but then it was the 60s bikes were evolving fast.
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