has anyone heard anything reguarding wether the super trial is on again this year, if so can we know asap so i can arrange time off etc
cheers big ears.
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nick fethers,Sherco S.A.
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It's a shame that MA can't find funds to secure a great event like this, but can find them for Enduro X. I missed the opportunity to see some of the world's best go at it with a small but talented group of Aussies last year. I hope that the 'new' licences can find their way to fund some more International riders over here.
Feet up, as always!
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nick fethers,Sherco S.A.
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stu,
unfortunately your dead right about MA about funding. if it were an event involving speed it sure would have come under some serious consideration.as long as i have knowen MA,MASA or the ACU to exist
i can not remember them actively promoting or backing a trials event except the aussie titles this also applies to the national magazines,since the reporting of the super trial how many tests have we seen, how many reports on the east coast states championships have been done.i mention these states because these are where the mags are based.
i use this as an example to compare to the rise of super motard which with the right backing has become a huge sport in australia and with the right backing trials could become as popular.
you go to any demo where trials is also on the menu and you always find the largest crowd because you get close to the action and its not noisey
the list of things we could do to improve things is huge particually in S.A.
where the sport has gone backwards to the point that it barely exists,45 rides at an average event is not good.when i started 20 years ago we would get 30 c grade and we had 15 a grade let alone the other classes
unfortunately your dead right about MA about funding. if it were an event involving speed it sure would have come under some serious consideration.as long as i have knowen MA,MASA or the ACU to exist
i can not remember them actively promoting or backing a trials event except the aussie titles this also applies to the national magazines,since the reporting of the super trial how many tests have we seen, how many reports on the east coast states championships have been done.i mention these states because these are where the mags are based.
i use this as an example to compare to the rise of super motard which with the right backing has become a huge sport in australia and with the right backing trials could become as popular.
you go to any demo where trials is also on the menu and you always find the largest crowd because you get close to the action and its not noisey
the list of things we could do to improve things is huge particually in S.A.
where the sport has gone backwards to the point that it barely exists,45 rides at an average event is not good.when i started 20 years ago we would get 30 c grade and we had 15 a grade let alone the other classes
In WA we're getting 45-55 riders per event and to tell you the truth thats just about the right amount. Not too much queing, 09:30-14:30 start to finish, 45minutes for lunch, and results by 15:00.....
I must admit we could do with a few more A graders, being bottom heavy as we are, but overall 50ish riders is a managable amount!!!
Having more riders is nice if you have plenty of accredited officials and volenteers to administer the extra work load.
I must admit we could do with a few more A graders, being bottom heavy as we are, but overall 50ish riders is a managable amount!!!
Having more riders is nice if you have plenty of accredited officials and volenteers to administer the extra work load.
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Austini, when I used to ride, we used to get anywhere from 40 - 60 riders and I thought it was a good turnout. Riders come and go and luckily the Clubs are still there to come back to later.
I'm at a loss why we can't get the mainstream magazines to take notice of trials. I was involved in organising 2 big trials demos down here in the Wollongong area(Harbourfest and Shellharbour Workers) a few years ago. We had cars, rubbish skips, pallets etc for the riders to get over and we had the crowd 2 and sometimes 3 deep along the fence whenever a rider started his bike.
Also the Albion Park Show had 2 top riders (Michael Byrne and Jake Walker)put on a ripper of a show to the delight of the crowds.
Where are we going wrong? The crowd can get right up and personal with the riders and still we miss out on the exposure in the mags!
I'm at a loss why we can't get the mainstream magazines to take notice of trials. I was involved in organising 2 big trials demos down here in the Wollongong area(Harbourfest and Shellharbour Workers) a few years ago. We had cars, rubbish skips, pallets etc for the riders to get over and we had the crowd 2 and sometimes 3 deep along the fence whenever a rider started his bike.
Also the Albion Park Show had 2 top riders (Michael Byrne and Jake Walker)put on a ripper of a show to the delight of the crowds.
Where are we going wrong? The crowd can get right up and personal with the riders and still we miss out on the exposure in the mags!
Feet up, as always!
I agree we should get more exposure in the mags! unfortunatly we are a miniscule minority not just amongst those who ride motorcycles competetivly but those magority who just want to bushbash.
When ever I ride in an area where part time MotoX's assemble you might get the occasional oldie rider show an interest but the mainstream appear to try thier hardest to prove haw much faster there @#$bhp machines are!!!!!
Demo and displays do attract the crowds and whenever trials and MotoX freestyle combine trials draw the biggest crowds. I think the main reason Joe Blogs doesn't rush out and buy a trials bike after a demo is because he can't imaging himself scaling cable drums and Ford Falcons in a single bound. What we do during Demos here in WA is to intergrate Juniors and the less capable of us just to let the general publc know that mere mortals do ride in the sport as well!!!!!!!!!!!!
When ever I ride in an area where part time MotoX's assemble you might get the occasional oldie rider show an interest but the mainstream appear to try thier hardest to prove haw much faster there @#$bhp machines are!!!!!
Demo and displays do attract the crowds and whenever trials and MotoX freestyle combine trials draw the biggest crowds. I think the main reason Joe Blogs doesn't rush out and buy a trials bike after a demo is because he can't imaging himself scaling cable drums and Ford Falcons in a single bound. What we do during Demos here in WA is to intergrate Juniors and the less capable of us just to let the general publc know that mere mortals do ride in the sport as well!!!!!!!!!!!!
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nick fethers,Sherco S.A.
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wow,
im a little cocerned that some people think 45-55 riders is just about right, does this mean if by promoting the sport if you get a sudden influx of riders your going to turn them away to avoid queing because there are things you can do to prevent this.
1 introduce a time limit per section
2 space out sections and make two half day rides, just to name a few
another factor to consider is as a dealer/supplier my range of product and price will change with increased numbers and with competition, prices will come down as it will become a more competitive market, and wouldnt you be happy to pay less for products.
one of the main problems of keeping the sport low key is that while we do this it will always be treated as a low key and will not get support from the wider industry(motor cycle).
you notice in the main stream mags there are articles by our mx/ enduro riders based overseas, wouldnt it be nice if adrian harry was approached to do a page after all hes based in the central hub of trials and is probably knowen to most of the top names and suppliers in pommy land.
food for thought?
im a little cocerned that some people think 45-55 riders is just about right, does this mean if by promoting the sport if you get a sudden influx of riders your going to turn them away to avoid queing because there are things you can do to prevent this.
1 introduce a time limit per section
2 space out sections and make two half day rides, just to name a few
another factor to consider is as a dealer/supplier my range of product and price will change with increased numbers and with competition, prices will come down as it will become a more competitive market, and wouldnt you be happy to pay less for products.
one of the main problems of keeping the sport low key is that while we do this it will always be treated as a low key and will not get support from the wider industry(motor cycle).
you notice in the main stream mags there are articles by our mx/ enduro riders based overseas, wouldnt it be nice if adrian harry was approached to do a page after all hes based in the central hub of trials and is probably knowen to most of the top names and suppliers in pommy land.
food for thought?
For my hard earned $$$$, traveling 1-2 hrs to an event and money spent on buying a bike I want to ride the whole day. Perhaps a roster for riders to not ride and officiate instead would have to introduced to cope with a Trials boom!!!!!
Time limits per section would be hard to police, having 80 riders ride through a section 5 times over, the observer would go bezeerk!!! even watching 300 individual ride I have trouble concentrating whenever I observe and thats without a stop watch.
MotoX and Enduro machines cost around the same as a trials bike if not more, so I don't think bigger sales will effect the price. Most makes are upgraded to various extents each year so technoledgy is keeping pace despite reduced sales.
I would love to see reports from the top riders abroard in the mags, perhaps if they made the off road mags out of a more softer material I could make use of the other 99.99% of reading content!!!! I used to enjoy reading Don (Howison) and Kev Zars pages in the various mags but its a lot of $$ to spend when info on the net is easyer to come by.
I'm not trying to be negative about publisising our sport but trials riders numbers in WA is slowly increacing in a slow manageble manner so we are looking fairly healthy......
Time limits per section would be hard to police, having 80 riders ride through a section 5 times over, the observer would go bezeerk!!! even watching 300 individual ride I have trouble concentrating whenever I observe and thats without a stop watch.
MotoX and Enduro machines cost around the same as a trials bike if not more, so I don't think bigger sales will effect the price. Most makes are upgraded to various extents each year so technoledgy is keeping pace despite reduced sales.
I would love to see reports from the top riders abroard in the mags, perhaps if they made the off road mags out of a more softer material I could make use of the other 99.99% of reading content!!!! I used to enjoy reading Don (Howison) and Kev Zars pages in the various mags but its a lot of $$ to spend when info on the net is easyer to come by.
I'm not trying to be negative about publisising our sport but trials riders numbers in WA is slowly increacing in a slow manageble manner so we are looking fairly healthy......