Best way to get to the bottom of a topic is to keep it focussed and not bring in entry fees to offset liscence fees etc, other wise us in england we'll be justifying why we should be paying higher entry fees with several different properties being ridden in one day, often 1-3 large laps, 10 to 40 miles in a loop, higher land costs and wages and general cost of living higher... Entry fees a whole new topic - have gone up in the last year to help with DEFRA bizzo I think (land fighting / managment group)?
I think you'll be able to find all the insurance details etc on ACU - UK website but yes, sure you'll find the cover the same.
I hope this sturs someone to help out MA in this matter as I'm sure they want the best for the riders also. We can banter all we like but will go no-where unless someone takes it on or is presented with help to MA. Good luck as it will help us all.
Hopefully by my return for the end of the year liscences will be some where near reasonable!
why are moto competition licences so expensive?
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colin jay
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Hi all,
Although I don't currently hold a competition licence (I have on and off over the past 30 years), only a Recreational licence, I thought that I would throw in my 2 cents worth.
One thing that may effect the cost of a competion licence in Aust V's the ACU in the UK, is the number of licences issued by MA V's the ACU.
One would have to assume that the ACU has significantly more licenced competition rider than MA does based on the overall population difference between Aust and the UK. So if the ACU issues 20 times more licences than MA, then the cost of insurance is spread over a greater number of people and would therefore be less, and you would not expect the cost of insurance to be 20 time greater. In fact you would expect that being a larger organisation, that the ACU could possibly get its insurance for less that MA does, considering that there would be far more insurance companies willing to take their money.
So, more licences issued and possible lower insurance cost, equals lower cost per licence for insurance equals cheaper licence.
Colin
Although I don't currently hold a competition licence (I have on and off over the past 30 years), only a Recreational licence, I thought that I would throw in my 2 cents worth.
One thing that may effect the cost of a competion licence in Aust V's the ACU in the UK, is the number of licences issued by MA V's the ACU.
One would have to assume that the ACU has significantly more licenced competition rider than MA does based on the overall population difference between Aust and the UK. So if the ACU issues 20 times more licences than MA, then the cost of insurance is spread over a greater number of people and would therefore be less, and you would not expect the cost of insurance to be 20 time greater. In fact you would expect that being a larger organisation, that the ACU could possibly get its insurance for less that MA does, considering that there would be far more insurance companies willing to take their money.
So, more licences issued and possible lower insurance cost, equals lower cost per licence for insurance equals cheaper licence.
Colin
if one was to peruse the acu website and stumble across the information, at say for instance, the link below:
http://www.acu.org.uk/uploaded/document ... 20Form.pdf
one would see that a trails rider in the uk pays 10 pounds whilst a motorcross or road race competitor pays 42 pounds.
this would be due to the higher risk associated with road racing or motorcross and the associated insurance claims & pay outs.
in australia all forms of motorcycle competition licence cost the same (except trials & fast 50s since last year). ie we all pay the insurance levy for all forms of the sport.
the only way this will change is if there are significant numbers of trials riders to make a difference.
there would be several hundred thousand trials riders in the uk, would we even have a thousand in australia?
http://www.acu.org.uk/uploaded/document ... 20Form.pdf
one would see that a trails rider in the uk pays 10 pounds whilst a motorcross or road race competitor pays 42 pounds.
this would be due to the higher risk associated with road racing or motorcross and the associated insurance claims & pay outs.
in australia all forms of motorcycle competition licence cost the same (except trials & fast 50s since last year). ie we all pay the insurance levy for all forms of the sport.
the only way this will change is if there are significant numbers of trials riders to make a difference.
there would be several hundred thousand trials riders in the uk, would we even have a thousand in australia?
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r2wtrials
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... doubt there is several hundred thousand of us here mate. in the tens of thousands perhaps. At a push.
I would prefer to pay a little more per event rather than get stung for a huge amount just to have a licence... Those that ride more put a little more into the pot.
Can you ride events with out having a licence over there?.. day licence thing.
I would prefer to pay a little more per event rather than get stung for a huge amount just to have a licence... Those that ride more put a little more into the pot.
Can you ride events with out having a licence over there?.. day licence thing.
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