Australian Champion V’s European Australian Champion

[Warren Laugesen]

When Jake Whitaker (NZ) and Pat Smadge (USA) rode in the European Championships a few weeks ago neither were eligible to score championship points. They could win the event and trophy but not recieve any points for it.

Outfit65- Colins score of 40 in the super trial was riding in a completely different grade to the others you mentioned.

I do quite like woopachangs idea of an International class as this seems to be used else where in the world. Were you intending them to ride thier own harder sections or just the same as National level which is what I thought you meant? If they were separate then the local riders do not get to measure themselves against the Internationals.

Some things to consider if this approach was taken is you have now made this a true International event. Subsequently (presuming most MA rules are the same as MNZ) you will need to apply for an International permit at greatly increased expense? Also requiring an International level steward to officiate the event and all riders competing (possibly in all grades) will need to purchase a one event International licence and insurance from the FIM at more expense for the privelige of competing. Also even some of these riders like Ben Hemo probabaly dont have relevant International licenses as he only competes in British events only these days.

Dont quote me on these as they would need to be looked into and confirmed by MA first, I am giving a worst case sinario here for an International class or event?

[David Lahey]

Doesn't that give our top guys some impotence to take it to them if they know they are coming?

BJ
I reckon you are baiting Maree to correct your spelling
David

[lewry family]

I don't know about that David........ maybe he is talking IMPOTENCE as opposed to IMPETUS!!


Maree

[BJ]

David

She's been so quiet I thought it would bring Ms Dictonary out!

Welcome back Maree, I hope ewe's are not under the wether up there.

Can't I have a say without someone playing press hawk over every word??


signed

little johnny H



Warren.

Supertrial was a handicap not really riders doing different grades. Maybe we should have an international line for the visitors????? A few extra splits might be all we need to even the score?

[PA]

This is the International Gospel according to MA.

The regulations for allowing overseas riders to participate in MA sanctioned events are:

1. No one licensed by another Federation may compete unless provision is made in Supplementary Regulations.

2. If an event is conducted at which New Zealand are the only other nationality the following applies:

(a) A current New Zealand licence is acceptable.
(b) Each New Zealand licensee must produce a clearance from Motorcycling New Zealand which will indicate that insurance to FIM standard is in place. The clearance must be sent to MA prior to 5pm on the last working day prior to the event.
(c) An IMN number is not required.

3. If an event is conducted at which one or more competitors are from countries other than New Zealand and Australia the following applies.

(a) All non Australians require an FIM licence. This includes New Zealanders.
(b) Each overseas competitor requires a clearance from their Federation which will indicate insurance to FIM standards is in place. The clearance must be sent to MA prior to 5pm on the last working day prior to the event.
(c) The promoter must apply for an IMN number. Please note IMN numbers will not be issued within 4 weeks of a meeting.

The application fees are:
• $300 - if application is made more than 6 weeks from date of meeting.
• $450 - if application is made between 4 and 6 weeks from date of meeting.

4. If an event is conducted at which juniors (under 16 years) from other Federations are competing, the following applies:

(a) A current licence issued by the rider’s Federation is acceptable.
(b) Each overseas licensee requires a clearance from their Federation which stipulates insurance cover to the following level exists.

Permanent Total Disability 100,000 CHF (Swiss Franc)
Death 50,000 CHF
Medical/Repatriation 50,000 CHF

The clearance must be sent to MA prior to 5pm on the last working day prior to the event.

(c) No IMN number is required for junior events.

[Warren Laugesen]

If I understand PAs Gospel then all Kiwis this year should have an FIM licence this year if a UK/Euro rider is also competing and the organisers would need the IMN permit number?

[PA]

If they join a local club and have an Australian license then they would ride as a local just like any other rider who is not an Naturalized Australian, I think.

[Steve Holzhauser]

PA I am pretty sure you can only hold one competition licence, so you must have your existing home country licence cancelled to be able to apply for, and be granted one from another country.

[flatslide]

Promo, you seem to be talking on behalf of a lot of riders who have not voiced their opinions here at all. I have not heard any past or present Aussie champions who have been concerned about an "International" coming here and taking out the Australian title.

Personally, bring em on I say! The talk after the titles in QLD '05 has only just died down. I've had the luxury of watching the world's top riders in action but a lot of trials fans haven't.

I think top Australian is a very prestigious award. Maybe it should be top Australasian as I think any Kiwi good enough enough should be able to win it, and there is a good chance one will! Go and ride the NZ Champs and you have the opportunity to be the NZ Champ title if you are good enough.

Flatslide.

[Rocco]

Never posted a reply before but couldn't help it with this one.

Outfit65 - what is the Spanish ADULT Championship listed on Dougie's profile? Never seen it named this anywhere else and couldn't find anywhere else. It's usually just Spanish Championship? Also, why shouldn't a SA rider win the SA championships? It would only mean supplying an extra trophy?

Someone asked why the experts are not commenting here. Don't think they are comfortable with making their opinions public - for obvious reasons! I happen to know of one who definitely doesn't agree with the present situation, but they know they have to wear it until something is changed.

Is it so hard to run two separate pointscore's within the one class? Not because I think the OS riders are better - I am just a patriotic Aussie and think we should reward our own with an Australian Title, and reward the internationals with another title - call it whatever you want.

Just my opinion.