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Stu,there is nothing wrong with MNSW Trials committees intentions, they are a very dedicated and experienced group doing a sometimes thankless job.
I must say I did think there would have been more input on this topic.
My post is in no way criticisms of Tony or the other committee members personally, I thank them very much for there involvement, and hope they can bring a resurgence back to our sport in NSW.

Steve.

Steve,
I know thet the Trials Committee have a difficult job every year and they do a top job. I'd like them to promote Trials not only in NSW but all states. The more trials we have the better, if the local Clubs have the manpower do hold them. Can we see more promotion in the mainstream media?

Steve
As a member of the NSW Trials Committee i would just like to put two bob's worth in.
The Bucca Trial at Coff's has been running for a few years, and I've got to say the organizers have done an absolutely incredible job of creating an absolutely unique event. When I attended this year to observe proceeding I was blown away by Sue and Peter Footes dedication, and enthusiasm for Trials, and especially their Bucca Trial.
For those who have never been, or seen one of the DVD's of the event, it is basically an "INDOOR" style of Trial, but Outside! It has a vast array of manmade sections. Some are in a creek bed, loaded with giant tyres, pallets, bridges and introduced structures, and other sections are completely manmade structures with see-saws, towers, stairs, you name it. IT IS AN ABSOLUTE CREDIT TO THEM, and lots of fun to ride for all grades.
There was a few minor issues regarding the number of sections, and the available lines for Experts, but these have been sorted already.
As the committee one of our main goals was to foster this trial, meaning firstly looking after the organizers, local club and landholders, and then of course the riders. There was only certain weekends available, and issues such as accommodation, and travel time had to be addressed.
There is also a threshold of rider numbers that could successfully be handled in the first year. Remember that they usually get 40 odd riders.
It is extremely unfortunate for yourself and others that can do both NSW and Queensland Opens, but believe me we did not have much choice of dates. It was far better that we actually had Coff's Harbour (Bucca) in the calendar than not at all. It has so many great things going for it that it would be a crying shame that more riders did not have the opportunity to compete at such a brilliant event.
Hopefully the Bucca Trial will be well supported this year, and we will try and find another solution to the clashes in 2010.
Sincerely

Paul Arnott

Paul and other forum members if I have given the impression that Coffs Harbour was not suitable as a Title round area, that is not at all what I was intending.
The venue and the Trials that are held at Coffs Harbour are just as you describe Paul, it really is a must attend venue. Peter Foote and Greg Harding are untiring in their work over the years to present nothing but the best for the riders who have attended their Trials. I have been there on many occasions and am always amazed at the work load these men put in.
It was the date clash at Coffs that was my main beef.
Thanks Paul for your reply.

Steve.

What would happen if you want to ride all the trials say C grade as I think there is a C+ as well this year and your having a shot at a place for the state title but you decide to help your club out and observe(as there always hard to find and sorry riders are the best observers) at one maybe two trials and the person who places rode all the trials and you missed out because you helped out?

Personally I think it has gone from none maybe three opens a year to too many in the space of one year.

Your going to burn all the helpers out before you get to the big one (Australian Titles)I hope not.

Bring it on. Lets have a trial every week woo hoo.
7 Opens and the Aussie titles in NSW this year is awesome. But what are we going to do next year when all the officials say stuff it, I did way too much last year.
Thought we may have learnt from the last Aussie Titles NSW ran. It was a great event however we lost a lot of key officials the following year.
Feedback was provided to certain people this year before the calendar was made official, but what they wanted to do was not open for negotiation.
Enjoy this year folks and look forward to the interstate trips next year if you want to ride open events.

Crafty.

The NSW Moto Trials committee has tried to do something for the sport rather than just sit and watch it wither.

The year is the first year NSW has had a committee for a considerable number of years it had been run by a single MNSW appointed aministrator, till 2007-2008 when a panel of three administrators where appointed.

The reason we did not have a committee was that there was no one willing to do the job, as you may remember is was not that long ago - 2007, NSW had 1 Open meeting scheduled for the year and there was less than 20 riders turning up to some club days.

To address some of the issues raised I would like to point out some of the efforts by the committee to actualy try and achieved something.

The Denman Club representitives have been approached with the view of being able to include their riders in the NSW state rounds and Open's they where asked to get involed and they where assured that the Moto Trials conducted under the host club banner could be staged with the needs of their riders in mind, to that extent they where invited to stage an Open meeting with or without host club envolement, have people involed in section setting generally what ever they needed to be involed. The reality is they are not invovled because I assume they choose not to be invovled, which is their right. However the result is if they conduct meeting under a club day permit under the by laws they will take second place to an Open meeting that is just the way it is under our present regulations.

A decision in NSW was made by those invovled to hold the number of Open as per the Calender. The committee made the decision about the number of title rounds based on a lack of support from a number of senior and well respected riders for meetings that where not labelled title rounds. The people invovled in holding these meetings have a resonsibilty to ensure they operate on a sound finacial footing and hence a necessity to do what they see as right and reasonable to assure this. We did get input from a wide variety of people including Toby and just because his opinion was not acted does not mean it was not considered, I can assure those who are putting up real money to stage these events as well as the committee gave all of these matters considerable thought.

A view has been expressed that the program is not fair to some, well unfortunelty when the committee makes decisions it needs to make them for the majority and for what they see as the long term benifit of Moto Trials in NSW. 2008 was a better year than 2007 and hopefully 2009 will be better again, the committee has made un unashamed decision that in NSW that they will give their best efforts to encourage new and younger blood into our sport and if this is at the expense of some of the older brigade them so be it, whilst we are endeavouring to encompass everybody the future is with a twenty year old not a fifty something.

If anybody wishes, nominations for the committee are currenlty open so I would encourage all to apply a strong committee is great for the sport.

I am the Chairman of the committee and I do back the decisions they have made.

If anybody thinks they have been dealt an unfair blow you can contract me directly at [email protected] or on 02 97551166 and I will ensure your views reach the committee members but please rember that your views are your views and they may not always be supported by a majority of the committee.

Bill Guthrie

guesswho wrote:You don't want to loose the older riders as they are the riders that have the money to travel and enter all the events and are usually the riders that help within the event.

And in a lot of cases the older riders (parents) are the ones sponsoring the young riders

I'd suggest some marketing outside of the trials fraternity to entice new and new young riders to the sport of trials.

Contact the police boys/mini bike clubs and maybe get them or go to them to have a ride and try day? Trials would be excellent training for Gymkhana or what ever its called.

More come and try days I know Paul has organized one soon but how many people outside of trials Know about it? I bumped into my mate( who is still racing enduros and now does dirt track as well because he went to one of there ride days) today and he said he had heard nothing about it but was interested.

Maybe posted it up on other Dirt bike forums/websites? Let other motorcycle clubs who do other forms of motorcycling activities know about trials events. etc etc.

Can you get hold of the list of MANSW licence holders and maybe do a mail out.

When I mention to people that do other forms of motorcycling that I do trials they say yeah we have seen the demos and seen the indoor on TV and there amazing but there reluctant to give it a go because they think where all like that?

Just my thoughts.