I have a possible solution that may suit all parties for a combined modern and twinshock trial:
Seeing the handful of Twinshock and Classic bikes competing at a trial set with modern bikes, why cant the small group circulate together and ride a section and all move on to the next, and the observer be rotated amongst the group riding NSR's ? This allows the moderns to compete as they please too. Easy and hard lines can be classed via the Club or C Grade markers. This means in a season a twinshock series is run also. More camaraderie amongst fellow twinshock riders here too (might just set an example of how enjoyable twinshocks can be)
I know another problem may develop where a group of moderns may catch up and dont want to wait, just let them through. Time is against a group also and must be conscious of this fact. Walking the lines together wont take that long anyway.
Say a fellow twinshock rider'd bike breaks down, and repairs back at the car park is necessary? He just rejoins the group and doubles his turn at the sections missed with the group at the next lap.
Your own roving observers amongst the group eliminates any confusion to the other observers (if you are lucky enough to have one at each section).
I mean this isnt rocket science that requires club direction and sub-committees etc for an executive joint decision blah blah....., but should be discussed and presented asking for support.
Is the MOMs allowable to do this within a single event? I think it had to be nominated rules, so nominate both rules and run the classes and grades. No need to divide and conquer the riders, inclusion and numbers supports the event and club.
Cheers,
Roger B.
Twinshock class run to no-stop rules
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Re: Twinshock class run to no-stop rules
I would rather push my twinshock than ride a modern!
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Mark K
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Re: Twinshock class run to no-stop rules
Unfortunately John, I had read your single line comment as a sarcastic and cynical put down of my previous post, and not the agreement that you had intended. I do apologise to both you John, and any other reader who may have been put off by any of this. No offence was ever meant to anyone.John Barwick wrote:Hi Mark Apart from my knee jerk comment below i was just agreeing with you ,,,,,,,You seemed read somthing between the line that was not intended ....!!
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Re: Twinshock class run to no-stop rules
Mark K wrote:Unfortunately John, I had read your single line comment as a sarcastic and cynical put down of my previous post, and not the agreement that you had intended. I do apologise to both you John, and any other reader who may have been put off by any of this. No offence was ever meant to anyone.John Barwick wrote:Hi Mark Apart from my knee jerk comment below i was just agreeing with you ,,,,,,,You seemed read somthing between the line that was not intended ....!!
Hi Mark,thats ok, no apologies needed,Im just to up front to be sacastic or cynical,and have often been taken the wrong way with things ive said,to wit i can only apologise to you for being so mono toned and after looking at again i can see quite clearly how it was taken out of context ,I do think you are right iff the organising clubs want to do what they fell is right for the day they should do just that,inform the riders on the day at riders briefing and and we are on our way to enjoy yet another trials day,,john
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Re: Twinshock class run to no-stop rules
Tim Barwick wrote:Mark K wrote:Unfortunately John, I had read your single line comment as a sarcastic and cynical put down of my previous post, and not the agreement that you had intended. I do apologise to both you John, and any other reader who may have been put off by any of this. No offence was ever meant to anyone.John Barwick wrote:Hi Mark Apart from my knee jerk comment below i was just agreeing with you ,,,,,,,You seemed read somthing between the line that was not intended ....!!
Hi Mark,thats ok, no apologies needed,Im just to up front to be sacastic or cynical,and have often been taken the wrong way with things ive said,to wit i can only apologise to you for being so mono toned and after looking at again i can see quite clearly how it was taken out of context ,I do think you are right iff the organising clubs want to do what they fell is right for the day they should do just that,inform the riders on the day at riders briefing and and we are on our way to enjoy yet another trials day,,john
Woops just realised im on tims forum sorry
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Re: Twinshock class run to no-stop rules
Hi all, my two bob's worth.........
I also attended the Easter 2 day Trial, no one asked me whether I was interested in non stop rules!?!??! For the record, I am NOT INTERESTED in two sets of riding diciplines at the same trial.
This is my first year attending the Queensland series on a twinshock. So far, (after four rounds) I haven't had to stop in a section and so called poonce around. I was always lead to believe that trials was about balance, skill and technique. For our Junior riders who can't afford a modern bike to begin with, a twin shock is a good cheap option to learn the basic techniques of modern day trials. If we changed the rules to non stop trials, the trials community could potentially be missing a new Kyle Middleton.
I have been riding trials since the early eighties and the thing that got me interested in trials was the Eddie La Jurne's air turn on his works Honda and Mick Andrews on a TY250 doing tricks.
If it's not broke, don't fix it
Real men can stop (and get going again)
Cheers
I also attended the Easter 2 day Trial, no one asked me whether I was interested in non stop rules!?!??! For the record, I am NOT INTERESTED in two sets of riding diciplines at the same trial.
This is my first year attending the Queensland series on a twinshock. So far, (after four rounds) I haven't had to stop in a section and so called poonce around. I was always lead to believe that trials was about balance, skill and technique. For our Junior riders who can't afford a modern bike to begin with, a twin shock is a good cheap option to learn the basic techniques of modern day trials. If we changed the rules to non stop trials, the trials community could potentially be missing a new Kyle Middleton.
I have been riding trials since the early eighties and the thing that got me interested in trials was the Eddie La Jurne's air turn on his works Honda and Mick Andrews on a TY250 doing tricks.
If it's not broke, don't fix it
Real men can stop (and get going again)
Cheers