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BOGWHEEL wrote:Hi David - only longer on that model. Getting the extensions from Hughs for my M116 swing arm. Makes a notable difference.
What gear ratio are you running David?

Terry I just did some test riding on that M138 with a camera on board to give an idea what the gearing is like. I rode some practice section type stuff in first gear then rode up my driveway in top gear. The video is still uploading to youtube so I will post a link to it later today.
The steering and handling seems pretty good and I'm getting used to the knobbies. They are more progressive than trials tyres when doing flat turns (between sliding and gripping). Also getting to used to a motor that is a fair bit more snappy in the mid range than what I am used to
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David Lahey wrote:
Greg Harding wrote:David, how did you like watching Naturally Free after all those years? We get it out on when there is nothing interesting on TV, always good for a laugh!

Man that was fantastic. I just watched Naturally Free up to when Jenny Johnson appears then kid stuff intervened. My memory had let me down badly. Until now I had thought that the dude who featured on the on the 325 Sherpa T was Steve Johnson. Oh well.
Magic to watch those old bikes and not just all the old trials bikes, the old MX bikes also brought back very fond memories. What about those guys racing dirt track for 6 hours on that track at Nepean raceway that chopped up like an MX track. It looked like the winner was on an XL350!!!!!
Based on the latest models of the bikes seen I'm thinking the Aussie bits were filmed in late 1973 and early 1974. I'm still trying to work out what bike Dave Pinkerton was riding when he was doing the demo riding at that showground with fireworks and floodlighting. It did look like a Bultaco trials bike but with extreme bling (for the era). Maybe that was filmed just before he started on Yamaha.
I saw Peter Paice looking very young before the start of the trial they filmed Dave Pinkerton at. Peter was in his orange Yamaha riding suit so that is another clue for it being late 1973 early 1974. Whay surprised me though was that Dave's enclosed trailer had his Yamaha sponsor as Annand & Thompson. I though they were the Queensland Distributor and McCulloch was the NSW Distributor?? I'm sure someone will straighten me out on this.
Anyway Greg and Donna, thanks again for the DVD and I hope to see the rest of it tomorrow night.
I was just thinking about my old Sherpa...
About 38 years ago (1977?) I bought a Bultaco Sherpa T 250 from someone in Brisbane. From memory it cost me $300 at the time. What made it distinctive was that the one piece fibreglass seat/tank unit had been removed and replaced with an exact replica made from polished aluminium. The seller told me that he had bought it from Dave Pinkerton after he was sponsored by Yamaha and this was confirmed by a few other people. The seat/tank was a beautiful piece of work with very neat welding but the rest of the bike had obviously seen some hard riding.
I used it for a fun bike and never competed on it...used to amuse the local kids when I rode it to the shops on one wheel. I rode it up 3 flights of stairs (and back down) which didn't exactly endear me to the neighbours!
It was a pretty reliable bike although it oiled plugs a fair bit, no doubt due to my amateur tuning and riding style. Whenever I took it for a ride, I used to carry a pocketful of clean plugs and a plug spanner. :D
I left it under my Mum's house when I moved to Sydney, intending to return and retrieve it. Unfortunately, without telling me, my Mum decided to get rid of it and she left it out on the footpath from where it disappeared. :(
I must have owned 20 bikes or so during my life, but that lovely Bully was the one I wished I kept, both for its appearance and because I had so much fun with it.
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Mark K wrote:
Greg Harding wrote: ...... OK, here is another photo of the bike under the linb: ..... Now that is too easy!

Really I have no idea exactly what make and model that bike might be, but of recent times I have been pondering a much greater mystery. Why is it that you seem to have such a liking for posting pictures of such tiny tiny bikes so very far away?

Hi Everyone,

There is a theory that I have been testing:

The theory is that all of the people that know old bikes that are less than really popular, have forgotten what they look like. Or possibly like me, they need glasses?
Mark K wrote: If you were to do that, then even if I couldn't recognise a particular bike I could just read the label and say exactly what the name on the bike says and still sound like I knew what I was talking about instead of saying "Bike? What bike? Is that speck next to the tree a bike?


Here is another little clue:
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Steve G, perhaps Dave Pinkerton would like to have his old Bultaco back as well ???
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Well here's my worst current basket case-- I remember buying My 1972 250 Bultaco in 1977-78 for wait for it in running order never had to do anything to it except change the needle in the bing carby that was on it $100.00 doesn't it make you squrem when you think of the price today I paid $1040 in 1974 for a brand new Montesa Kingscorpian. in 1973 I paid $495.00 for a 250 xl honda. in 1973 I paid $325.00 for my 175 Yamaha with 325 miles on the clock. In 1974 I paid $150.00 for a one year old basket case Montesa Cota. In 1973 I paid $875.00 for my kawaka F11 new. Back to one of my current basket case Cost $400 in 2004 Montesa Cota 349. Thought the frame was bent but it was the twisting caused by the welding of the bulkhead whatever it is called.

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The wheels are good the tank is getting painted red not the original red, the tripple clamps came two days ago the front forks arrived today the cables also arrived today Oiled my boots last night with cooking oil my two open face helments arrived 3 days ago, bits and pieces are at the chromers and the s/h kick start shaft is on its way. don't you love enthusiam
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Greg Harding wrote: ..... Here is another little clue: .....
OK so I'll just have a guess then ........

Could it perhaps be something Japanese? :mrgreen:
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Hi Everyone,

Kombivan, love the :montesa , that's how I like to see them! Old Crusty and oozing patina, now that tells a story!

Mark K, yes Japanese! So that was close enough for you, here is another view:
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Certaianly no TESTAR :ossa, but less of a Monstr :ossa ty when it is parked on ColFlat rock.
Certainly a great place to ride!
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beautiful spot Greg. When I was a teenager I went for a nice day ride along the rocky bed of the Timbarra River, near Drake in Northern NSW, with a mate, both on TY175s and that place in your photo reminds me of it
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Took the tyres off the montesa rims today and its a definite respoke couldn't believe the difference between inside the rim and outside totally corroded inside. so now the big bucks are going to happen. Got a brand new pair of boots on gumtree today for $80.00 and two open face helmets for 30 sweet.
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G'day Greg, my (somewhat shorter!) list is as follows:

Current riders
1xRL250
1xTY175

Basket cases
2xRL250
1xTY175

I'm looking to build another current rider out of my two RL 250 basket cases, but my problem is that I only have one tank, which looks to be in quite good condition, but has a fuel leak. I've tried tank sealer to no avail, so I'll be looking for a tank that doesn't leak before I go any further with that idea. I'm not one who would ever try to weld a fuel tank! I'm also currently looking to get my basket case TY175 running as well - my main problem with that has been pitted front forks, but I may have solved that, so it could be full steam ahead with that project. I don't tend to build concourse restorations - just something that will pass scrutineering! I'm at the NSW Central Coast...

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I've had boat fuel tanks welded and altered many times by professional craftsman trick is to clean out the tank air it for a few weeks then take it in tell them how you cleaned then they can determine how they will go about it from there. Most professionals have a gas they put in the tank to make it safer don't remember what they put in them ( i think I remember the type of gas but I'm not going to say incase I'm wrong). Good luck and the RL's are a nice ride.

I used to use truck wash from castle chemicals in Newcastle its good stuff looks like i will have to get some more now for my new ride. :montesa
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