Basket Cases

[Greg Harding]

Actually Greg and I are doing a 4 stroke heavyweight twin shock challenge between us.

Chippy

Congratulations Chippy!

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The competition was very close on Saturday with the ITALIANSTALLION a single point less than the Heavy Old Non Directional Apendage. However Sunday was a different day, Chippy flattened one of the markers meant that we swapped positions. Happy Days!
All was good until I rode Saturdays line on Sunday gaining maximum points. DOH !

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Oh yeah, there was an incident involving a rock shelf, a misfire and a five, but we at HONDA do not wish to discuss it.

[Greg Harding]

Hi Everyone,

Have been wondering through my spare parts shed and I need a bigger shed as the walkways are getting smaller. Always good for practicing memory skills though and I can always grab what I want when I need it, but the diversity of parts is expanding.

So all of my parts are up for swap, I can not see any reason in having multiples of parts when someone else can use and enjoy them!

If ANYONE is chasing a part, let me know and I will see if I can help? Post a reply, PM or 0428 789854

As an exchange, I am interested in anything Trials related, ANY bike, ANY part, ANY model, ANY condition or ANY Trials movie.

On a different note, can anyone help me? Is it true that TL 250's were based on one of these?

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Knowing that the XL 250 Motorsport predates TL250 and I can see similarities, but it is quite a different bike to ride. Yes it goes and the lights work on both beams, I was even considering riding a Trial on it !

[TriCub]

About the only thing that is the same is the basic motor, everthing else is totaly different.
Even the motor is a bit different. From memory the TL head has a centre inlet port(same as the later XL250), TL cam is a softer grind , the ingnition flywheel is the same as an XL350, the TL has different gear ratios , TL has the later style crankcases with ball bearing mains although the cranks are the same as are pistons, cylinders, valves and all the cam drive bits.

They are quite popular with the Pre75 MX guy's being the only pre75 Jap four stroke that is anything like usable in MX.

[David Lahey]

Some UK XL250s like Greg's were modified for trials competition back in the day

[Kombivan]

I had a XL250 and I could never imagine one in trials high speed gearing heavy, gutless. don't get me too wrong as I rode mine most in quarries and the beach rear ends were heavy I did find the xl250 good in sand dunes at high speed. Maybe the guy that started the story stopped in a gold top paddock and for the rest of the day he thought he was on the best trials bike in the world. The magnesium casings also shattered pretty easy.

[Greg Harding]

Hi Everyone,

I had a XL250 and I could never imagine one in trials high speed gearing heavy, gutless. don't get me too wrong as I rode mine most in quarries and the beach rear ends were heavy I did find the xl250 good in sand dunes at high speed. Maybe the guy that started the story stopped in a gold top paddock and for the rest of the day he thought he was on the best trials bike in the world.

Kombivan, Maybe that is how the Goldwing came to be?

Some UK XL250s like Greg's were modified for trials competition back in the day

David, if that first photo was taken before they released the TL 250, then the header pipe was retained.

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The second photo reminds me of my Ferguson TEA 20, the petrol tank wraps around the cylinder head, when you work it hard on a hot day you can hear the petrol boiling in the tank! Makes you wonder why they tilted the motor back elevating the head into the bottom of the tank? Wouldn't work very well in Gladstone.

About the only thing that is the same is the basic motor, everthing else is totaly different.
Even the motor is a bit different. From memory the TL head has a centre inlet port(same as the later XL250), TL cam is a softer grind , the ingnition flywheel is the same as an XL350, the TL has different gear ratios , TL has the later style crankcases with ball bearing mains although the cranks are the same as are pistons, cylinders, valves and all the cam drive bits.

George, it was the different inlet port that caught me out when I bought the bike, as I wanted the head for a TL 250 with worn out cam journals. Realising the error, the obvious thing to do was to fix the bike and ride it. All has worked out OK as I have swapped the XL complete for a TY.

[David Lahey]

Yet another Kawasaki KT250 basket case has been brought into the spotlight of competition
Toowoomba rider John Cuff drove up to Tony Bax's property at Lowmead last weekend and while John has ridden a couple of recent events on a TY250 borrowed from Peter Sampson, the 2014 Twinshock and Classic Challenge at Tony Bax's place was the first trial he has ever competed in using a bike of his own. Great to see. John is also resurrecting a TY175 basket case.

[David Lahey]

I saw so many TY250s at Tony Bax's place last weekend I thought at first that there might have been more TY250s than TY175s, but after a count there seemed to be one more TY175 than the four TY250s. Oh well, maybe next time.
Here are the TY250s of locals Eric Batty and Tim Stone, and visitors Lindsay Haig and James Wager

[David Lahey]

Cedric Van Heerden's beautifully presented Montesa Cota 348, ridden at the Tony Bax trial by Peter McWilliams

[Greg Harding]

I saw so many TY250s at Tony Bax's place last weekend I thought at first that there might have been more TY250s than TY175s, but after a count there seemed to be one more TY175 than the four TY250s. Oh well, maybe next time.

Hi Everyone,

David, just sharing some photos of my latest acquisition, a couple of TY250's that I swapped for my Honda XL250 Motosport, both of us are very happy.
They are not quite ready for competition..........

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Is anyone chasing any TY parts? All of my parts are up for swap!

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