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Which bike for learning?
Posted: Tue Dec 25, 2007 9:30 am
by kembro
Hi,
I'm looking at getting my first trials bike, just not sure what it should be.
It needs to be reliable, low maintenance and easy to ride. The budget is $3000, so I've considered either a used Scorpa 4tricks or a proper one.
Any suggestions or assistance appreciated, as i'm looking to buy within a month.
If you've got a trials bike in Gippsland, and are looking to get rid of it let me know.
Cheers
Kem
Re: Which bike for learning?
Posted: Tue Dec 25, 2007 11:09 am
by bryan
Kem, don't waste your time with a 4 tricks if you want to start out in trials.
I'm sure the're great fun, but I can't imagine what they are useful for trials wise.
I think you'll find that all of the major brand bikes are reliable and low maintenance and easy to ride (though that one's pretty hard to quantify). In my experience there is no practical advantage or disadvantage to any of the bikes.
I would happily hop on any of the popular bikes, sherco, gas gas, beta, montessa (not sure about Scorpa's - the bikes are OK but the riders seem to be a bit weird
), but I stick to one brand loyally because I have a shed full of spares to fit, and matching riding gear.
Particularly the case of it being your first trials bike, just find something that's been looked after, and that won't cause you financial distress, and ride it until you know more about what you specifically want.
All that said, I know of an exceptionally pristine Sherco 250, 2000 model for sale near Bairnsdale. If you're interested I give you the guy's number.
regards
Bryan
Re: Which bike for learning?
Posted: Tue Dec 25, 2007 6:48 pm
by kembro
Thanks Bryan,
Been thinking the same thing, the 4tricks would be a fun toy, but just a toy. Not going to let me progress into the sport as I get some skills up.
That number would be good Bryan. The Sherco sounds just the ticket, if it's been looked after and under 3k. Won't be ready till mid to end of Jan, after I flog off my DRZ motard setup.
Cheers
Kem
0429782687
Re: Which bike for learning?
Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 10:54 pm
by N*A*M
details of said drz motard
Re: Which bike for learning?
Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 7:22 am
by kembro
Here they are Nam. Nothing wrong with them, I just need to cash up for the trials bike.
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/DRZ-Motard-Wheel ... dZViewItemCheers
Kem
Re: Which bike for learning?
Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 3:29 pm
by Anthony Drake
Gday Kem
Yeah Bryan is right when your learning Sherco,gas gas ,beta ,montessa are all good for LEARNING
and then you can buy a Scorpa
Scorpa is King
Drakey
Re: Which bike for learning?
Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 8:59 am
by kembro
Hi all,
Just a few more questions.
In what year did Scorpa change to Yamaha motors from Rotax?
Are the early naughties (2000-2002) Scorpa's reliable? Any known problems to watch out for. Talkin' real one's, not 4tricks as I want to learn right from the start, i've got a good Yamaha mechanic locally to help out.
Speaking of known problems, is the Stator a big problem on 2000 model Beta's, or is it an easy fix, that will have been fixed on most of them. I've also got a Beta dealer in Morwell if they are reliable.
Are there any known issues with the 2000 Sherco 250, that i should watch out for.
Thanks for everyone's help, feeling my way through and be rolling shortly.
Happy New Year.
Kem
Re: Which bike for learning?
Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 10:53 am
by David Lahey
kembro wrote:Hi all,
In what year did Scorpa change to Yamaha motors from Rotax?
All the Scorpa SY250 two stroke models have the Yamaha motor. The SY250 came out first in 2000. The previous Scorpa (with Rotax motor) was a very different looking bike that cannot be confused with the SY250.
Are the early naughties (2000-2002) Scorpa's reliable? Any known problems to watch out for.
The Yamaha motor in all model Scorpa SY250 two-strokes is very long-lasting and reliable.
The centre section of the exhaust can split. It usually happens when the killswitch is released before the motor is completely stopped. It can happen on any model SY250 two stroke.
The clutch release arm is quite flimsy. If anything bends it, it will probably fail.
Speaking of known problems, is the Stator a big problem on 2000 model Beta's, or is it an easy fix, that will have been fixed on most of them.
The stator problem is easily fixed by fitting an exchange stator. It takes about 15 minutes and you will need a flywheel puller. They can be exchanged through your Beta dealer or you can get yours rewound by an Auto Electrician. I've never heard of a rewound stator failing. If you are looking at only 2000 model REV3s, you could be pretty sure that if the stator was going to fail, it would have failed by now.
Are there any known issues with the 2000 Sherco 250, that i should watch out for.
Sherco two-strokes seem to require replacement of the main bearings on a more frequent basis than other brands.
Kem
Re: Which bike for learning?
Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 11:26 am
by kembro
Thanks David.
Re: Which bike for learning?
Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 12:09 pm
by motocentral
Hi Kem
Just to clarify if you're interested in a sherco 2-stroke trials bike I checked our records regarding a comment about sherco main bearings & our records show that we have sold 26 bearings (2 per bike so 13 bikes affected) over the last 10 years. I checked that with the number of bikes sold & thats a less than 3% change rate.
3 sets of these bearings were replaced under warranty and after speaking to the owners I know most of the other worn bearings were due to lack of regular maintenance. From memory there were at least 2 that were due to the bike being drowned then left for some time before fixing resulting in corrosion in the bottom end.
If we can be of any further help regarding any Sherco's you may be looking at please feel free to contact us at Moto Central
ph:02-62480229
Australian Sherco Importers
http://www.sherco.com.au