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Hi,

I am interested in getting a Trials bike, currently don't know a great deal about them but I wanted to know if any could be road ridden in Queensland? Is there any registration requirements the bike must have before being registered and ridden on the road?

Any help would be great.

Gday, Im not sure of the exact requirements for Queensland , but you will need to have head and tail lights, indicators, Stop lights etc, 2 mirrors, probably a seat, a horn, chain guard, road tyres (or at least on/off road tyres approved for road use - There isnt a trials tyre that I know of that is), Speedo and probably some other things I cant think of at the moment. Basically it would be a whole lot of work that would make the bike fairly useless for serious trials. Plus speed is an issue - You probably would never use 1st and 2nd and sustained road type speeds wouldnt do the bike much good. Easier to get a Chook Chaser like an XR or similar that is ready to go.

Cheers,

Stork.

I know that dad on these forums has his ty250 registered. It is the monoshock version and apparently the last of those ones that could be registered. He rides that in competition. But i guess if u wanted a newer trials bike then it's a different story. You would probably at least need to get something that you can fit a long ride kit to like the scorpa.

Nic

I don't know about Qld but in nsw you need a vin plate (vehicle identification number) trials bikes and motocross bikes don't come with one as they were never intended for road use. I know some ty's came with them but they are the exception not the rule. To get a vin plate the manufactures need to pass certain ADR's (Australian design rules) which is quite expensive, espesialy if you are only able to spread the cost over a small number of bikes, as is the case with trials bikes. Better option from the manufactures point of view is to keep the cost down and sell more, rather than reach the market of road registerable trials bikes ( very limited ). Speak to the qld transport authority and see if there is a way around it. As stated previously an xr would be a better option. At least that way you have an excuse for another bike. Also consider the newer crf from honda, alot more BMX like than the xr's.

goodbye

Firstly if it does not have a compliance plate, Qld tpt will require proof that it is an approved import vehicle, then it will require a mod plate stating that it complies with the adr's of the time,and was not imported as a competition only vehicle( different taxes I think) it will also have to comply with the aforementioned adr's.

Next you will need a 'Roadworthy Certificate ' good luck finding someone who knows what they are on about.

Tyres can be an issue but I believe some Cheng Shin Trials tyres comply.(Uggghhhh)

Mind you this is for an approved import.

I you cannot prove that your bike is approved then you will have to go down the path of a single approval.( you will need plenty of medication and dollars)

And I don't think I have come anywhere near fully explaining the mess of dealing with Government departments?????????

Good luck
Peter

In Queensland, bikes made before 1976 can be road registered without an ADR compliance plate (mainly because ADR compliance plates were only introduced in 1976)
This means that any pre-76 trials bikes can be road registered via a roadworthy certificate (usually by a motorbike shop). TY175B and TY250 A and B, TL125 and the first model RL250 are in this category alongside a myriad of Spanish trials bikes. You may need to show some documentation to prove that your bike is a pre-76 model.

ADR Compliance plate trials bike models:
Steel tank RL250 Suzukis came with compliance plates.
Yamaha TY175JC did also.
A steel-tanked Yamaha TY250 model from the mid 1980s has a compliance plate - TY250S I think.
Italjet twinshock trials bikes have ADR compliance plates.
Post 1976 Bultaco twinshock trials bikes have ADR compliance plates.

If you are after a modern bike, the Hell Team were working on getting some of the Scorpa models available with ADR plates.

I think another issue is how bad trials bikes are at covering distance, unecanomical, slow, uncomfortable, unreliable( over a larcge distance).

I have a friend ( not me I should add ) that rides on the road for short distances and does not worry about getting caught. He or she thinks it is to hard to get rego for the bike and therefore I ( whoops I mean He ), He just rides the 200m to his favorite trials ground. I think he is very naughty and I would not sujest someone elso do this.

Cheers Gordon

That is not a very good idea riding on the road for any distance. I was very lucky going to check on a property at Denman once. It too was 'just up the road' about 400m so I idled the TY along the road and heard some gravel crunch behind me. The local copper snuck up on me! We had a chat, asked me where I was going, why I was riding on the road etc. He went through the fines he COULD have given me, but didn't. I was let off with a warning.
He came up to the Trial the next weekend to check out the fun.

Where I live I think the cops are a bit more leniant( ? ) I have stopped and had a chat to them about an unrelated issue, as an afterthought they said where are you going on that, when I said into the next field he was fine with that. Just think about the times you have seen fork lifts, tractors, quads, diggers, backhoes and all sorts of other vehicles in this situation, I think the cops are using their own discretion and rightly so.

Cheers Gordon