Hi all,
Ive gone to take my front wheel off today on my beta. Problem is, the hey bolt which titens down against the axle is well and truly flogged on the inside. Its got a very round shape to it, and i cant get anything to grip it, and without it coming fre, i cant get the axle out. Already tried this as i thought it would take the tension off on the bolt making it loosed hence less resistance.
Has anyone got any tips on what to do to fix this problem?
Cheers, Rob
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Robert
Hate to butcher a good bolt and even less a good tool but.............
I have three suggestions.......
1) Use "Vicegrip" locking pliers to grab the outside of the bolt.
2) Buy a couple good quality socket type Allen Keys that are oversize (imperial/metric gives a choice) and either drive one in (Use hammer with care!!!!) that is a tight fit or grind a little off until you have a tight fit. Then very carefully and gently turn ANTI clockwise to undo (Beta's are anti clockwise I hope????) Don't use an Allen Key that you can cut off with a hacksaw, if you can cut it is not hard enough metal and don't grind things enough to make them blue. You might only have one crack at this so do it right!
3) Hope someone else comes up with the answer!!!!
Hate to butcher a good bolt and even less a good tool but.............
I have three suggestions.......
1) Use "Vicegrip" locking pliers to grab the outside of the bolt.
2) Buy a couple good quality socket type Allen Keys that are oversize (imperial/metric gives a choice) and either drive one in (Use hammer with care!!!!) that is a tight fit or grind a little off until you have a tight fit. Then very carefully and gently turn ANTI clockwise to undo (Beta's are anti clockwise I hope????) Don't use an Allen Key that you can cut off with a hacksaw, if you can cut it is not hard enough metal and don't grind things enough to make them blue. You might only have one crack at this so do it right!
3) Hope someone else comes up with the answer!!!!
ok, i got that bad boy out. Ill post a pic of the resulting mess when i get a chance. Tried driving in oversize keys already. Cant grab the outside as it is recessed with about 2mm showing. Tried cutting a groove with a hacksaw to use a screwdriver. All to no avail.
Then read elsewhere to use a punch, driv it in the outside a few times, then put it on a little angle and hit it so as to spin the bolt in an anti clockwise direction. out it came. was pretty simple in the end.
Just incase there is a better way, does anybody know of one?
Beta fastenings are thoroughly crap. Half the bolts fall out due to poor choice of threads and the like. And theyre just too damn soft. Ive lost sub fram bolts, rear brake plunger, and the main bolt through the top of the rear shock. Many others have been caught just in time before they too wiggle completely loose.
Then read elsewhere to use a punch, driv it in the outside a few times, then put it on a little angle and hit it so as to spin the bolt in an anti clockwise direction. out it came. was pretty simple in the end.
Just incase there is a better way, does anybody know of one?
Beta fastenings are thoroughly crap. Half the bolts fall out due to poor choice of threads and the like. And theyre just too damn soft. Ive lost sub fram bolts, rear brake plunger, and the main bolt through the top of the rear shock. Many others have been caught just in time before they too wiggle completely loose.
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David Lahey
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There is nothing inherently wrong with the metals or thread selections on Betas. It is riding the bike while bolts are loose that will wreck the threads, frame, subframe, engine casing holes and whatever else.
I suggest you keep all your bolts tightened to the right torque and you will have a trouble free run.
I suggest you keep all your bolts tightened to the right torque and you will have a trouble free run.
Ive never had a problem with the threads, bolt holes etc etc. Im suggesting that if a different pitch thread was used on the bolts then maybe the problem of them continually wiggling loose wouldnt be so common. Having to ply practically every bolt with locktite every time you take them out for some kind of regular maintenance doesnt seem as though its right to me. Maybe im expecting too much here, but i thought this would be a reasonable expectation
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Phil
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Hi Robert
There a few diffrent methods I would use.
#1 There is a product sold by RECOIL called REGRIP it is magic stuff just a few drops and you can get most rounded off screws and bolts undone.
#2 Weld a small post to the head of the screw using a weld all type electrode then weld a nut to the post and it should undo.
#3 Drill a small hole down the centre of the screw then dill the head of the screw off with same size drill as the bolt and once you have relieved
the pressure by removing the head you should be able to remove the rest of the screw with an ezy-out.
#4 If all else fails call Phil at Phil's Thread Repairs 0415 861 036
I hope this will help you in the future.
Thanks Phil.
There a few diffrent methods I would use.
#1 There is a product sold by RECOIL called REGRIP it is magic stuff just a few drops and you can get most rounded off screws and bolts undone.
#2 Weld a small post to the head of the screw using a weld all type electrode then weld a nut to the post and it should undo.
#3 Drill a small hole down the centre of the screw then dill the head of the screw off with same size drill as the bolt and once you have relieved
the pressure by removing the head you should be able to remove the rest of the screw with an ezy-out.
#4 If all else fails call Phil at Phil's Thread Repairs 0415 861 036
I hope this will help you in the future.
Thanks Phil.