Beginners trials

greybeard · Post by **greybeard** » Fri Oct 26, 2007 7:13 pm

Hi all, years ago,when I started riding in trials events,there were classes for trail bikes.It was great fun,you could ride your bike to the trials and ride it home again.It was challenging on an average dirt bike,and,as you improved your skills,it often lead to specialised trials machinery and so on.
How about a trials competition for fully road registred bikes?Think about it.
Open to everyone with a licence and a registred bike .You could have different classes,according to ability,just like now.You would be able to ride on public land,forestry tracks etc.Also,the fun factor would be enormous .Very importantly,as we are already an over regulated society,
keep the rules and regulations to a minium.The aim would be to attract people to trials competition because it is fun and,I am sure ,it will lead to a new beginning to a moribund sport.
Cheers, Greybeard

Post by **David Lahey** » Fri Oct 26, 2007 9:16 pm

Greybeard
Before I make comment, lets see if I got your main messages right. I think you said:
Riding only road registered bikes would allow the use of public land for trials competition riding.
Riding a road registered bike would allow people to ride there from home and back.
Riding a road registered bike in a trial with suitably set sections would be more fun for beginners than riding a trials bike in beginner trials sections.
A trial run only for road registered bikes would not require as many rules and regulations as a trial for trials bikes.
Present day trials are not fun enough to attract new riders to the sport.

PS I too started riding trials in the 1970s in trailbike class on my road registered 1972 TS185 (but I was too young to have a road licence).

greybeard · Post by **greybeard** » Sat Oct 27, 2007 12:58 pm

David,you must be a lawyer or an accountant to reach your conclusions.
My suggestions were aimed at normal people with common sense.
Cheers

Post by **David Lahey** » Sat Oct 27, 2007 1:15 pm

I would say that a person with common sense and the opportunity would probably prefer to ride trials on a trials bike

Post by PA » Sat Oct 27, 2007 5:07 pm

If you rode trials on Public land you would then be required to comply with the road traffic act plus any relevant sporting rules.

The trail bikes these days would make a terrible bike to ride anything similar to C Grade standard.

Juniors would be banned from the sport as they could not hold a road license.

The backlash from the green groups using public land for such pursuits would be time consuming to counter.

I can't sit on the fence here. I need to be on the private side of it.

Peter

greybeard · Post by **greybeard** » Sat Oct 27, 2007 6:21 pm

Hi all,I merely suggested a class for registered bikes,incorporated in a trials competition,not a trials competition just for registered bikes.I guess it is probably too hard in this day and age.
Cheers,

Tony C · Post by **Tony C** » Mon Oct 29, 2007 2:25 pm

I'm sure any Club that organises Opens or Club days would welcome any new rider/bike combination.
All the rider would need is a competition licence & compliant bike & minimum clothing. Clubs must also comply with requirements set out by MA. This can make Clubs seem unfair at times but these are the rules they must abide by.
Most trials have an entry/Clubman/beginner class. This may be suitable for trail bikes depending on the riders ability.
Adding another class requires increased manpower, organisation & some cost. Then how do we set the section? For the one or at most two trail bikes or for the majority, which would undoubtably be trials bikes. Someone is always going to be unhappy. This also happens at the elite end of the ability range.

At Pacific Park on 11/11/07 we will be setting sections on the easy side for Clubman & C grade. Call it an early Christmas gift.
REGULAR RIDERS PLEASE TAKE NOTE, you may wish to re-consider the class prior to start, especially C grade & possibly B grade.
Our Club was informed that a number of riders would attend if the C grade line was a little easier so it's our intention to set the sections that way. To give some riders that normally don't ride Open events due to the severity of some sections, a chance to compete. If this is succesful & introduces more riders to Trials then we may consider this avenue for '08.
For the majority of riders there would be no change, however those at the pointy end of C & B grade may wish to enter the grade above to challenge themselves.

Tony C

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Bill_Guthrie · Post by **Bill_Guthrie** » Wed Nov 07, 2007 7:40 pm

I have got to tell you despite our best efforts to accomodate those who complained about the standard of the sections it has not transformed into entries for the day on 11//11/07.

At lot of effort has gone into this open meeting by a lot of people and it has meet with not a lot of support.

If we continue for 08 is yet to be decided but the entry levels would indicate that there is not a lot of interest.

Bill Guthrie.

Neo · Post by **Neo** » Thu Nov 08, 2007 8:44 am

Hi Bill,

I must say that I’m shocked to hear your news. :shock:

I will be there with Nikki. But I spoke to someone earlier this week and he was unaware that this event was even on.

I think it would have been a good idea to of had another NEWS! article on the home page of TA (not just SupRegs). And an email invitation/news-sheet sent out by all the suppliers.

There’s no doubt in my mind that OpenRules are more fun for riders and spectators. And the last event was fantastic!

Even if this weekend is a flop it would be a shame to see OpenRules die just because the riders were unaware, this time.

And I think that even Pacific Park could do more to let riders know whats happening down there.
TA makes that easy for everyone :wink:

Best of balance and very best of luck

Neo

Tony C · Post by **Tony C** » Thu Nov 08, 2007 2:14 pm

Just to confirm, this is an Open Trial, not an Open Free Trial (as we ran ealier this year).
Bill is quite correct, anyone Club that runs any Trial, whether Club day or Open knows how much work goes into the smooth running of the event.
Even more so with Opens' as more resources are required.
It's unfortunate not a larger entry was received but the event will proceed as planned. I'm sure all who ride will have a great day. (Less riders, more chance of a trophy).
I'm told it will be fine weather but can assure you the sections will be slippery. Something we haven't had a lot of in NSW for a while.
For those who have only just decided to ride, I'm sure if you contact the organisers they will accomodate you.

Tony C