NSW Mototrials Meltdown news article

CRAFTY · Post by **CRAFTY** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 12:32 am

Once upon a time in Sydney there were a number of very keen trials people who hinted an interest to run the Australian Titles in Sydney. A number of after trial get togethers had the idea that if "we all join one club" it just might happen. So with a bit of a push Pacific Park Trials Club appeared. This club had the whos who of NSW trials gurus on board. The first couple of years were fantastic and some really enjoyable and successful events were run. With one of the best trials areas in the country and full support of the Marchant Family (owners of the park) how could the club not be the most successful trials club in the country? Too many clubs in the Sydney area trying to run events with minimal active members? These champions were setting sections etc for their original clubs (sometimes 3 or 4 clubs) and also doing the hard yards to get the Pacific Park Club up and running.You could ride a trial in the Sydney/Wollongong area almost every weekend. After a few years it became too much and a lot of members stopped helping out and went back to their home club. How can we get a Trials Club of Sydney to work???
Involvement from all Sydney trials riders the main thing.
Maybe the TCS could run 3,4,5 events and allocate one event to each club (club to organise venue and landholders permission) and run it under the TCS banner, with a percentage of profit going to the club organising venue. This would keep all clubs involved in trials and not totally out of pocket, (which is the main issue with riders who have done a long stint with one club) and all the current venues should still be available. This may or may not work and would involve a big change in the mindset of many, but is it worth it?? I think so.
Crafty.

Neo · Post by **Neo** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 9:29 am

Well said CRAFTY.

Without the consideration of distance, I think this will never get off the ground. :cry:

Best of balance.

Neo

Post by **keithj** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 9:58 am

From an email:

I've just read Trevor Bennetts letter re trials in NSW and have to confirm that most of what he says is true. Unfortunatly a lot of the problems are geographical...Sydney is just two big and spread out and has to many great riding areas. I feel that a lot of riders are not to concerned with been the australian champ they just ride for the personal chalange and a big field of riders does not add to the add to the chalange. How you combine all these riders into larger events is anyones guess. I suppose the clubs have to get together.
As a Sydney based member of Denman I would realy like to see Denman run a twin shock title round and will suggest it next time I ride there.
MCNSW & MCA do not help I have written to them expressing my concerns about junior coaching and the cost of licences. CAMS (car racing) have a non speed event license which is half the price of a MCNSW trials license. Surley trials is a non speed event!!
I feel trial riders in NSW need to get some delegets on MCA & MCNSW committies that are going to push our case.
Sydney will continue to work as it is because the riders are time poor and not unhappy with the way it works now, though a unifying individual could probably make it better.
Sorry to write all this here but I don't know how to post a reply to the letter by TB could some one please move it to the right spot. Thanks Tim Guinness

Gary B · Post by **Gary B** » Wed Feb 14, 2007 8:20 pm

I've been waiting for something like this to come up.
I know where Trevor is coming from, I & only a few of others have been doing the "Hard yards" for Trials in the Wollongong area for a bloody long time. From over 20 years in trials the one thing I see is that it's the same few people from each club doing the work. Doesn't matter which club & what event. All us NSW clubs got together for the Aussie C/ships back in 2004. Guess what, same people who would do 99% of the work at their own club, this time we had a lot of clubs together to share the load.
Maybe Glenn's idea of a Sydney Trials club would work. Broadie & I have disscussed that same idea many times over the years, but I feel that it would be the same few people doing the work again. I know theres nothing I like more than spending a weekend setting sections, then missing out on ride with Stewards duties to be then told the sections where too hard or too easy. I think we need some way to get more heplers involved & then they can learn form us old hands & then take over in years to come. What do you all think we can do to encourage other riders to help, get officials licences & keep this sport going. I'm sure we would like to hear some ideas.

keep ya feet up.
Gary B

restoremaz · Post by **restoremaz** » Thu Feb 15, 2007 7:53 pm

where is this article?

im just geting into it,am i wasteing my time?

edit: i found the article.

i also agree it should be one club for sydney,with events all over the place.

and this license i have to get, is it a one off thing,or does it have to be renewed every year?

Trev · Post by **Trev** » Thu Feb 15, 2007 9:03 pm

Well, I've managed to get a few of you talking. That's a great start.

Tim has suggested that "we" need to get Trials people on MA, and MNSW, committees who will push "our" agenda.

If you care to contact Rob Madden, the CEO of Motorcycling NSW, he'll be able to confirm that I've pushed the Trials case on numerous occassions. This has been in my role as an Officials Seminar presenter for MNSW. I push the idea that Trials is different. We are not racing in any way whatsoever.

Then you can contact David White, the CEO of Motorcycling Australia. David will be able to confirm that as the current Chairman of the Moto-Trials Commission, I've pushed to have the Restricted National Competition Licence changed to a Trials Only Licence. If that was to eventuate, then we'd be in a great position to negotiate for amendments to the requirements for Junior Trials Coaching. In exactly the same way, we'd be in a position to negotiate the requirements, and experience, necessary to be a Licenced Moto-Trial Official.

Here's your chance to get involved.

MNSW has just circulated all Clubs with information in regard to annual elections for all sorts of Committees. Guess what !!

The Moto Trials Sports Committee has seven, yes that's 7, positions available. Your nomination needs to be in to the MNSW Office before 5pm on March 9th 2007. If "your" Club can't provide you the nomination forms, feel free to email me. I'll send you one !

My personal view is that the MNSW Moto-Trial Sports Committee needs no more that three positive, proactive members. Mind you, even three will be one more than the number of Open Trials we have in NSW in 2007.

Don't sit back and wait for "somone" else to nominate, 'cause it ain't gunna happen!!

Gary B · Post by **Gary B** » Sat Feb 17, 2007 10:14 am

I went to my first Bicycle Trial at Arcadia in January & my son had his first ride. Day membership & Day licence available. $15.00 all up for under 13 y.o. There was 3 classes run on the day, Novice, Sport & Pro.
The good thing was the Pro riders observed in the morning & then the Sport riders observed the Pro riders in the afternoon.
With The Pro riders doing their bit in the morning they helped & encouraged the lower grade riders. Maybe we could try something like this on few Club days. They only rode 5 sections for 3 laps & the Pro rider stayed with his group. The Cycle Trial guys work hard. Novice sections are like our "C" grade lines. Sport riders do hard "B" grade lines & the Pro riders are doing "Expert" level stuff. Perhaps doing less sections each day & more work / input from every graded rider would be good for Moto-Trials as well.

Keep ya feet up.
Gary B

flatslide · Post by **flatslide** » Tue Feb 27, 2007 9:07 am

I agree Gary, we should trial this approach for starters at a club day, perhaps with clubman, twinshock, seniors and c grade ride in the morning, b, a and expert in the arvo, one briefing in the morning as usual. Think about it, less queues (if any), maybe even more sections, more spectators, i.e. those who understandably may not enjoy observing and so dont normally turn up in case they are pressured into observing. The issue with struggling to get enough observers will no longer exist. It might require an earlier start but i doubt that will really bother people.

Once the bugs are ironed out then follow it up by trialing it at an open.

Kerrin Phillips TCC/MWMCC/TCS

paulm · Post by **paulm** » Tue Feb 27, 2007 2:21 pm

A stroke of genius Gary and Kerrin

Because it also means we get the B, A and X riders observing in the morning - and hopefully providing a bit of friendly advice for the less able - and then in the afternoon we have the good guy's riding with observers who know the score and the opportunity to watch and learn…

Top idea - gets my vote

Paul Mac

Neo · Post by **Neo** » Tue Feb 27, 2007 3:22 pm

Hmmmm...

Great idea but it would be interesting to know what the X and A riders thinks about only riding half a day when they have traveled so far.

Has my vote....but then I am biased :wink:

Another interesting point is that there has been 19 Posts in this thread, but 1393 Views. I think a lot of people are not speaking up.

Best of balance.

Neo

NSW Mototrials Meltdown news article

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